Scoop! La California potrebbe ospitare l’mtDNA di Re Edoardo II

Nel maggio del 2013, Craig L. Foster ha iniziato la sua collaborazione con la squadra di The Auramala Project. Craig è un consulente di ricerca alla Family History Library, una divisione di FamilySearch, con sede a Salt Lake City, Utah. Craig è un professionista rispettato in un campo molto specializzato, e lavora con i maggiori e più dettagliati database genealogici del mondo. Negli ultimi mesi, Craig ha seguito la linea feminile di discendenza, partendo dai vari discendenti identificati da Kathryn Warner, Kevin McKenzie e Terry Muff (tra i contributori principali di The Auramala Project), nella speranza di scoprire un portatore vivente del’mtDNA di Edoardo II.

Questa ricerca, un vero lavoro da certosino, comincia ora a dare frutti. Craig ha identificato una linea di discendenza diretta di madre in figlia che arriva fino agli anni ’80 e ’90 del Novecento, con quattro sorelle, le quali sono vissute in San Joaquin County, California, e molto probabilmente erano portatrici della molecula di mtDNA di Edoardo II. Vedete la discendenza sotto per dettagli. Le persone in questione sono le sorelle Nunn, alla fine della discendenza.

Se tu sei un discendente delle sorelle Nunn, o ne conosci uno, per favore contattaci, perché potresti darci una mano a fare un grande balzo in avanti con la nostra ricerca.

Siamo molto grati sia a Craig che alla Family History Library per tutto il tempo che ha dedicato a The Auramala Project. Questo non è il normale lavoro della Family History Library, dal momento che il loro focus è aiutare le persone a scoprire i propri antenati.

 

DESCENDANCY OF THE NUNN SISTERS

SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, CALIFORNIA

Generation 1) Eleanor of Castile, queen of England, countess of Ponthieu (c. late 1241 – 28 Nov 1290), married Edward I, king of England (17 June 1239 – 7 July 1307)

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Generation 2) Joan of Acre (spring 1272 – 23 April 1307) [Note: Second surviving daughter of Edward I and Eleanor of Castile, born in the Holy Land], married (1) Gilbert ‘the Red’ de Clare, earl of Gloucester and Hertford (2 Sept 1243 – 7 Dec 1295)

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Generation 3) Elizabeth de Clare (16 Sept 1295 – 4 Nov 1360), married (2) Theobald de Verdon or Verdun, justiciar of Ireland (8 Sept 1278 – 27 July 1316)

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Generation 4) Isabella de Verdon (21 March 1317 – 25 July 1349), married Henry, Lord Ferrers of Groby, Leicestershire (1290s/early 1300s – 15 Sept 1343)

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Generation 5) Elizabeth Ferrers (c. mid to late 1330s – 22 Oct 1375), married David de Strathbogie, titular earl of Atholl (c. early 1330s – 10 Oct 1369)

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Generation 6) Elizabeth de Strathbogie, also called Elizabeth of Atholl (1361 – 1416), married (2) Sir John le Scrope (will dated 23 Dec 1405)

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Generation 7) Elizabeth le Scrope (c. 1395 – 1430), married Sir Thomas Clarell of Aldwark (1394 – 1430)

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Generation 8) Elizabeth Clarell (c. 1415 – 1503), married Sir Richard Fitzwilliam of Aldwark (will proved 5 Sept 1488)

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Generation 9) Margaret Fitzwilliam (? – ?; her brother was born in 1448), married Ralph Reresby (d. 1530)

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Generation 10) Elizabeth Reresby (? – ?), married Edward Eyre of Holm Hall (d. 1557)

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Generation 11) Lucy Eyre (d. before 1556), married Humphrey Stafford of Eyam

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Generation 12) Alice Stafford (1610-1700), married Anthony Savage (1605-1695)

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Generation 13) Alice Stafford Savage (1653-1695), married Francis Thornton (1652-1726)

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Generation 14) Margaret Thornton (1678-1756) married William Strother II (1665-1726), and emigrated to Virginia in 1669

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Generation 15) Agatha Strother (1695-???), married John Taliaferro (1684-1763)

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Generation 16) Mildred Taliaferro (1733-1802), married Samuel James (1722-1755)

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Generation 17) Catherine James (1788-1830), married James Adams (1785-1858)

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Generation 18) Gabrella Adams (1818-1872), married Simpson R. Metcalfe (1812-1882)

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Generation 19) Jemima Catherine Metcalfe (1839-???) married William Lycan (1834-???)

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Generation 20) Julia A. Lycan (1878-1965), married Traton Morris Nunn (1865-1947)

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Generation 21) Daughters of Julia A. Lycan and Traton Morris Nunn include:

Hazel Marguerite Nunn (1901-1992), married George A. Hunter (1885-1968);

Edith Isetta Nunn (1903-1991), married Harold Huckaby Thurman (1903-1979);

Viona Jane Nunn (1904-1986);

Glenda Mae Nunn (1907-1980), married Forrest Glenn Hammet (1904-1978).

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A breakthrough! California may be home to the mtDNA of King Edward II

Back in May 2013, Craig L. Foster joined the Auramala Project team. He is a research consultant at the Family History Library, a division of FamilySearch, based in Salt Lake City, Utah. Craig is a well respected professional in a highly specialised field, and is working with the largest and most detailed genealogical databases in the world. Over the last few months, Craig has been following the direct female line of descendancy, starting from the various descendants identified by Kathryn Warner, Kevin McKenzie and Terry Muff, toward the present, in the hopes of discovering a living carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA.

 

This painstaking and at times frustrating research has begun to pay off. Craig has identified a direct mother-to-daughter line of descent that brings us down to the 1980s and 1990s with four sisters, all of whom lived in San Joaquin County, California and were, most likely, carriers of the mt DNA molecule of Edward II. See the descendancy below for details: the four sisters in question are the Nunn sisters, at the end of the descendancy.

If you are a descendant of the Nunn sisters, or know someone who is, we would love for you to get in touch with us, and help us move this exciting research a huge step forward!

We are very grateful both to Craig and the Family History Library for the time and effort he has dedicated to the Auramala Project. This is not the regular work of the Family History Library, since their emphasis is on assisting people to find their ancestors.

DESCENDANCY OF THE NUNN SISTERS

SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY, CALIFORNIA

Generation 1) Eleanor of Castile, queen of England, countess of Ponthieu (c. late 1241 – 28 Nov 1290), married Edward I, king of England (17 June 1239 – 7 July 1307)

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Generation 2) Joan of Acre (spring 1272 – 23 April 1307) [Note: Second surviving daughter of Edward I and Eleanor of Castile, born in the Holy Land], married (1) Gilbert ‘the Red’ de Clare, earl of Gloucester and Hertford (2 Sept 1243 – 7 Dec 1295)

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Generation 3) Elizabeth de Clare (16 Sept 1295 – 4 Nov 1360), married (2) Theobald de Verdon or Verdun, justiciar of Ireland (8 Sept 1278 – 27 July 1316)

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Generation 4) Isabella de Verdon (21 March 1317 – 25 July 1349), married Henry, Lord Ferrers of Groby, Leicestershire (1290s/early 1300s – 15 Sept 1343)

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Generation 5) Elizabeth Ferrers (c. mid to late 1330s – 22 Oct 1375), married David de Strathbogie, titular earl of Atholl (c. early 1330s – 10 Oct 1369)

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Generation 6) Elizabeth de Strathbogie, also called Elizabeth of Atholl (1361 – 1416), married (2) Sir John le Scrope (will dated 23 Dec 1405)

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Generation 7) Elizabeth le Scrope (c. 1395 – 1430), married Sir Thomas Clarell of Aldwark (1394 – 1430)

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Generation 8) Elizabeth Clarell (c. 1415 – 1503), married Sir Richard Fitzwilliam of Aldwark (will proved 5 Sept 1488)

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Generation 9) Margaret Fitzwilliam (? – ?; her brother was born in 1448), married Ralph Reresby (d. 1530)

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Generation 10) Elizabeth Reresby (? – ?), married Edward Eyre of Holm Hall (d. 1557)

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Generation 11) Lucy Eyre (d. before 1556), married Humphrey Stafford of Eyam

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Generation 12) Alice Stafford (1610-1700), married Anthony Savage (1605-1695)

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Generation 13) Alice Stafford Savage (1653-1695), married Francis Thornton (1652-1726)

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Generation 14) Margaret Thornton (1678-1756) married William Strother II (1665-1726), and emigrated to Virginia in 1669

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Generation 15) Agatha Strother (1695-???), married John Taliaferro (1684-1763)

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Generation 16) Mildred Taliaferro (1733-1802), married Samuel James (1722-1755)

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Generation 17) Catherine James (1788-1830), married James Adams (1785-1858)

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Generation 18) Gabrella Adams (1818-1872), married Simpson R. Metcalfe (1812-1882)

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Generation 19) Jemima Catherine Metcalfe (1839-???) married William Lycan (1834-???)

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Generation 20) Julia A. Lycan (1878-1965), married Traton Morris Nunn (1865-1947)

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Generation 21) Daughters of Julia A. Lycan and Traton Morris Nunn include:

Hazel Marguerite Nunn (1901-1992), married George A. Hunter (1885-1968);

Edith Isetta Nunn (1903-1991), married Harold Huckaby Thurman (1903-1979);

Viona Jane Nunn (1904-1986);

Glenda Mae Nunn (1907-1980), married Forrest Glenn Hammet (1904-1978).

Genealogy: join the search for living descendants of Edward II’s mother, Eleanor of Castile

Do you carry Edward II’s Mitochondrial DNA?

Help us complete the genealogical tables on this page!

If you are into genealogy, and want to find out if you are one of the people we are looking for, please take a look at the names on the tables below. If any of these women are among your ancestors, please get in touch with us, you may be able to help us solve the mystery of King Edward II of England (click here to find out how!).

Following on from important research carried out by Kathryn Warner and Kevin McKenzie, Auramala Project contributor Terry Muff with the help of his granddaughter Bethany has pushed ahead through a great deal work to complete the following genealogical tables. Terry is a retired police detective, and as you might expect, he has formidable investigative skills!

The genealogical tables below exclusively follow the line of transmission of Mitochondrial DNA from Edward II’s mother, Eleanor of Castile, through her descendants in the direct mother-to-daughter line. They start with descendants on two different sides of the family, Lucy Eyre and Thomasine Kirkham.

Descendants of Lucy Eyre

Click here for Lucy Eyre’s direct line back to Eleanor of Castile, Edward II’s mother, as researched by Kathryn Warner.

(1) Lucy Eyre (d. before 1556) = Humphrey Stafford of Eyam
(1.1) Alice Stafford, m John Savage of Castleton (d. 1605)
– – (1.1.1) ??? Savage
– – (1.1.2) ??? Savage
(1.2) Gertrude Stafford b c 1553 Eyam, Derbyshire, = Rowland Eyre of Hassop
– – (1.2.1) Jane Eyre, m Christopher Pegge
– – – (1.2.1.1) Prudence Pegge b 15/10/1598 at Kniveton, Derbyshire, = John Hollingworth of Hollingworth 1615
– – – (1.2.1.2) Anne Pegge b 11/2/1602 = Johannes Whitewall of Yeldersley
– – (1.2.2) Frances Eyre b1558 Hassop, Derby
– – (1.2.3) ??? Eyre
– – (1.2.4) ???Eyre
(1.3) Ann Stafford = Francis Bradshaw of Bradshaw Hall in 1565.
– – (1.3.1) Lucy Bradshaw = Nicholas Cresswell of Ford 1621
– – – (1.3.1.1) Barbara Cresswell only daughter = John Barber in 1648
– – – – (1.3.1.1.1) Ann Barber b 29/9/1650 = Robertus Outrim 24/4/1672, Brampton
– – – – (1.3.1.1.2) Grace Barber b 1/3/1651/2 = Benjamin Twigg 8/1682 Chesterfield
– – – – – (1.3.1.1.2.1.) Elizabeth Twigg b 1695 = John Tatlow, St Wegburghs Derby 26/12/1723
– – – – – (1.3.1.1.2.2.) Hannah Twigg b 9/1/1684 = Anthony Gregory of Culver, at Bakewell 11/2/1710/11
– – – – – – (1.3.1.1.2.2.1.) Anna Gregory born to Anthony Gregory of Calver on 16/4/1712
– – – – (1.3.1.1.2) Mary Barber bapt 23/10/1653
– (1.4) Catherine Stafford (bapt 1/9/1568) = Rowland Morewood of The Oaks
– – (1.4.1) Anne Morewood, = James Bullock of Greenhill
– – – (1.4.1.1) Elizabeth Bullock (bapt 12/04/1608) = Godfrey Froggat of Mayfield (d. 1664)
– – – – (1.4.1.1.1) Elizabeth Frogatt (1636-1639) m. Thomas Burley of Greenhill
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.1) Elizabeth Johnstone b c 1686
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.2) Jane Johnstone b 9/9/1688
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.3) Dorothy Johnstone b 9/1/1690 d 1690
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.5) Barbara Johnstone b 3/11/1699 (A Barbara Johnston = Thomas Pender at St Bartholomew the Great, London 19/10/1726.)
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.6) Margaret Johnstone b 3/9/1701 d 1701
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.7) Catherine Johnstone b 9/9/1702
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.8) Sarah Johnston b 17/8/1698 m James Richardson 1725 or 28/3/1731 at York Minster
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.1.1.9) ? Elizabeth Johnstone b at Stoke = a Thomas Acton 14/5/1695/6 (but currently unsubstantiated).
– – – – (1.4.1.1.2) Alice Frogatt (bapt 9/8/1630 Norton, Derby, d. 12/11(1691), = 9/12/1646 to Thomas Bulkeley, Gent of Stanlow, Leek, Staffs
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.1) Elizabeth Bulkeley b 1647 Audley, = John Dormer.
– – – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.1.1) Alice Dormer, bapt 3/2/1675/6
– – – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.1.2) Dianah Dormer 25/6/1689 Stoke on Trent
– – – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.1.3) Maria Dormer bapt 10/4/1687 Stoke on Trent (St Peter and Vincula)
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.2) Alice Bulkeley(1) b 4/1/1652 d 20/6/1659. (In Dugdales visitation Alice is listed as “living in London”)
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.3) Alice Bulkeley(2) b /d 12/1/1664
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.4) Mary Bulkeley b 24/3/1657 married (1) ? William Hordern. (William Horden was a Cutler of Warrington)
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.5) Catherine Bukeley b 22/7/1659 (Dugdale’s has Catherine as living in London, unmarried)
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.6) Anna Bulkeley b 29/10/1667
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.7) Jocosa (Joyce) Bulkeley b 1669 married Richard Locker (Gent) of Kingsley, Staffs 2/1/1704/5 by Licence.
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.8) Priscilla Bulkeley b 7/8/1674. Died as a Spinster 21/3/1687 at Bond End.
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.2.9) Sarah Bulkeley 29/8/1649 ?marr Anthony Walsh, Leek 1675 (Walsh is incorrect. Sarah married a ‘Grasier’ of London and living in Essex at the time of Dugdale.)
– – – – (1.4.1.1.3) Catherine Frogatt
– – – – (1.4.1.1.4) Barbara Froggatt = Thomas Bright of Greystones and had 4 daughters (only found 3 – TM)
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1) Ann Bright c1665 = Stephen Bright (2 daughters)
– – – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1.1) Elizabeth Bright c1688 marr Richard Ashmore
– – – – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1.1.1) Hannah Ashmore b 21/1/1718marr Thomas Bower 3/4/1739 North Wingfield, Derbyshire
– – – – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1.1.2) Ann Ashmore b28/5/1714 (sister of Hannah) = William Smith 29/3/1738, North Wingfield, Derbyshire
– – – – – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1.1.2.1) Elizabeth Smith, born 21/5/1758, North Wingfield, Derbyshire
– – – – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1.1.3) Elizabeth Ashmore born 26/9/1704 North Wingfield, Derbyshire
– – – – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1.1.4) Margaret Ashmore born 25/6/1710 North Wingfield, Derbyshire
– – – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.1.2) Mary Bright c1671 = Henry Broomhead in 1689
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.2) Barbara dau of Barbara Foggatt b and d in infancy
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.3) Daughter of Barbara Frogatt and Thomas Bright 3
– – – – – (1.4.1.1.4.4) Daughter of Barbara Frogatt and Thomas Bright 4
– – – – (1.4.1.1.5) Anne Frogatt
– – – – (1.4.1.1.6) Mary Froggatt b 2/9/1648 Norton, Derby. Aunt of a Mary Frogatt who married Thomas Grundy 4/5/1694 at St Annes, Baslow, Derbyshire. [Too old?TM] *It appears that Mary Froggatt may also have married John Goostrey, Geoffrey Bright of Stavely and a Mr Newham
– – – – – (1:4:1:1:6:1) Sarah Bright bp. 25 Nov 1686; bur. 13 Jan 1686/87. These two daughter entries are mentioned in Hunter’s Familiae Minorum Gentium, v. I, MS 277, pages 679-680 as from another original pedigree of Bright by Bassano.
– – – – – (1:4:1:1:6:2) Elizabeth Bright bp. 17 Nov 1687; bur. 7 Jan. 1687/88
– – – – (1.4.1.1.7) Priscilla Frogatt
– – – – (1.4.1.1.8) Elizabeth Roberts married a Mr Parker
– – – (1.4.2.) Gertrude Morewood = Jeffrey Roberts
– – – (1.4.3.) Alice Morewood, wife of John Bamford of Pule-hill in the parish of Silkston, esq., a justice of the peace and treasurer for the lame soldiers
– – – (1.4.4.) Elizabeth Morewood, wife of Ralph Greaves
– – – (1.4.5.) Faith Morewood, wife of Reginald Eyre of Maltby co. York
– – – (1.4.6.) ??? Morewood
– – – (1.4.7.) ??? Morewood
– – – (1.4.8.) ??? Morewood
– (1.5) Dorothy Stafford

Descendants of Thomasine Kirkham

Click here for Thomasine Kirkham’s direct line back to Eleanor of Castile, Edward II’s mother, as reasearched by Kevin McKenzie.

Thomasine (or Susan) Kirkham = Thomas Southcott of Bovy Tracey (who had 3 wives) d. 10 August 1600
– (TK.1.) Frances Southcott = Otho Peter of Bowhay/Bowheye) in Devon (2 son named in the will of his uncle John, living 1571, d. 1607. Buried at Edminster. M. I. (Monumental inscription))
– – (TK.1.1.) Elizabeth Peter = James Dawbney of Wayford, then to William Keymer of Penmdoiner, Com. Somerset Sh. (County Somerset)
– (TK.2.) Cicily Southcott ” William Peter on 24 sept. 1571 at Bovey Tracey
– – (TK.2.1.) Thomasine Peter, Bap. 31 Oct. 1572 at Bovey Tracey
– – (TK.2.2.) Mary Peter Bap. 16 August 1585 at Torbnam = … Keynes of Sussex
– (TK.3.) Ursula Southcott = Robert Hill of Shilston at Bovey Tracey in Oct 1575
– – (TK.3.1) Ursula Hill, living 1629???
– – (TK.3.2.) Amy Hill
– – (TK.3.3.) Agneta Hill
– – (TK.3.4.) Thomasine Hill = Robert Nunne de Felsham in Suffolk, living in 17 oct 1637
– – (TK.3.5.) (Ursula?)Maria Hill = Robert Chichester de Raley in Com. Devon Milit Balnei (Knight of the Bath), remarried Sir Ralph Sydenham???
– – (TK.3.6.) Francisca Hill
– – (TK.3.7.) Elizabeth Hill = John of Carew of Haccombe in Com. Devon, Esq, Living 1620, will 21 sept 1623 Pro 26 June 1626
– – – (TK.3.7.1.) Ursula Carew, named in her father’s will as 14 years old in 1620 = Ellis Restorin at East Allington 22 January 1632-3, Exeter
– – (TK.3.8.) Cecilia Hill = Thomas Ashford of County Devon, 3 February 1620-1, Exeter, named in her father’s will as living in 1629
– – – (TK.3.8.1.) Elizabeth Ayshford = ??? count named in the will of her brother Nicholas, living in 1701
– – – (TK.3.8.2.)  Bridget Ayshford of Burlescombe, named in the will of her brother Nicholas, ‘aged and weak’, will of 15 november 1709.
– – – (TK.3.8.3.) Mary Ayshford, baptised 20 May 1620 at St Thomas near Exeter = ??? Manson, named in the will of her brother Nicholas
– – (TK.3.9.) Brigetta (Bridget) Hill = Richard Duxwell of London, Pewtener
– (TK.4.) Susanna Southcott (Bap. 10 Jan 1551/2) = Thomas Holford at Bovey Tracey on 3 Dec 1571
– – (TK.4.1.) Mary Holford = Josephe Wyke, April 19, 1611, Exeter
– – (TK.4.2.) Amy Holford = Robert Coker in Devonshire
– – – (TK.4.2.1.) Mary Coker, baptized 1603/4 died April 1636 = Charles Bruen (or Brune) (n.b. Stirnet shows only sons for them)
– – – (TK.4.2.2.) Anne Coker = Thomas Ferrard of Trent (Thomas Gerrard of Trent)
– – – – (TK.4.2.2.1.) Anne Gerard = Sir Francis Windham of Trent (c. 1654-1716) 1st baronet (created 18 november 1673) Entertained Charles II after the battle of Worcester, M. P. for Minehead, Somerset
– – – (TK.4.2.3.) Elizabeth Coker = John Jeffery of Catherston, b.c. 1618 d. 31 september 1643
– – – (TK.4.2.3.) Elizabeth Coker = John Jeffery of Catherston, b.c. 1618 d. 31 september 1643
– – – (TK.4.2.4.) Bridget Coker
– – (TK.4.3.) Susan Holford, unmarried in 1620, married Amias Calmady (incorrectly given as his father Edward) of Wembury June 8, 1621
– – – (TK.4.3.1.) Maria Calmady B. 1623, buried 1627.
– – (TK.4.4.) Barbara Holford
– – (TK.4.5.) Thomasin Holford = Richard Batson, died 1619
– (TK.6.) Mary Southcott = William Stroud (Strode) Married 15 July 1581 at Bovey Tracey (Sir William Strode of Newnham, Knt. Adm. to the inner temple 1580 aged 19 years and 5 months 1581, bur. 28 June 1637 at Plympton St. Mary. Will 25 Sept 1636, Pro. 21 Feb 1637-8, Pcc (Lee 18)
– – (TK.6.1.) Mary Strode, died before her husband in Ashton Church, living with issue in 1644 = Sir George Chudleigh at Bovey Tracey
– – – (TK.6.1.1.) Elizabeth Chudleigh = Arthur Ayshford
– – – – (TK.6.1.1.1.) Elizabeth Ayshford = Sir William Hazelwood of Maidwell, Northampton, knighted atWhitehall 9 Oct 1669
– – – – – (TK.6.1.1.1.1.) Elizabeth Hazelwood, died 15 Jan 1732/3, married (as 3rd wife) = Christopher Hatton of Krikby, Northants, 2nd baron Hatton (m. August 1685) (created 29 July 1643. Created 1st Viscount Hatton 17 January 1683, died september 1706)
– – – – – – (TK.6.1.1.1.1.1.) Hon Elizabeth Hatton = ???
– – – – – – (TK.6.1.1.1.1.2.) Hon Penelope Hatton [identity of another child unclear]
– – – (TK.6.1.2.) Maria Chudleigh =Hugh de Clifford of Chudleigh 13 January 1627-8, = 2nd Gregory Cole of Petersham, Slade and Buckishe in 1645 and Maria appears to have died in childbed in 1652 at the birth of the only son Robert.  However they did have 3 daughters before.
– – – – (TK.6.1.2.1.) Mary Clifford bapt. 9 January 1628-9 at Chudleigh = Baldwin Acland b.1607 St Olave, Exeter, on 26/10/1652 at Ashton, Devon
– – – – (TK.6.1.2.2.) Jane Cole
– – – – (TK.6.1.2.3.) Mary Cole
– – – – (TK.6.1.2.4.) Elizabeth Cole
– – – (TK.6.1.3.) Dorothy Chudleigh
– – – (TK.6.1.3.) Dorothy Chudleigh
– – (TK.6.2.) Joan Strode = Sir Francis Drake, 1st Baronet, at Buckland Monachorum. [PLEASE NOTE THAT I HAVE PUT THE DAUGHTERS OF JAON STRODE AND SIR FRANCIS DRAKE INTO THE ORDER I PRESUME THEY WERE BORN IN, GIVEN THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE
– – – (TK.6.2.1.) Elizabeth Drake, married 14 February 1638-9 at Bere Ferrers = John Trefusis Junior, of Trefusis, Cornwall
– – – – (TK.6.2.1.1.) Jane Trefusis (alive 1690) = George Ley
– – – – (TK.6.2.1.2.) Sarah Trefusis (alive 1699) =Sidney Blight
– – – – (TK.6.2.1.3.) Dorothy Trefusis (baptized 7 october 1646, died 12 April 1699)
– – – – (TK.6.2.1.4.) Bridget Trefusis (alive 1699)
– – – (TK.6.2.2.) Mary Drake (ancestress of Kevin’s) aged 4 in 1620, baptized 26 Sept 1616, married 28 april 1636 at Buckland Monachorum (Devon) = Elizeus (or Ellis/Elisha) Crymes of Crapstone Barton, Buckland Monachorum, Devon, M. P. for Bere Alston, Lieut.-Col of Plymouth Garrison for the Parliament
– – – – (TK.6.2.2.1.) Joan Crymes, bur. 3 september 1643 at Buckland
– – – – (TK.6.2.2.2.) Mary Crymes, baptized October 1645, married 21 April 1669 at Buckland = John Beale
– – – – (TK.6.2.2.3.) Margaret Crymes, baptized 20 december 1651, married 2 february (or 11 of february?) 1668-9 at Buckland = Joseph Drake of Buckland Monachorum, buried 1 may 1682 at Buckland Monachorum [N.b. the Drake Pedigree shows no female issue, only male issue]
– – – (TK.6.2.3.) Sarah Drake, Baptized 23 October 1629, married 21 February 1650 at Buckland Monachorum, died 1667 = Thomas Trevilian of Yarnscomb, Devon, died 1664, M.I. Carhampton, Somerset.
– – – (TK.6.2.4.) Joan Drake, baptized 22 February 1631, married 4 February 1650 at Buckland Monachorum = Sir Hugh Wyndham of Watchet, Somerset (?Hugh Wyndham of Dunraven Castle?) [They apparently had one son and three daughters]
– – – – (TK.6.2.4.1.) Christobella Wyndham baptised 24/10/1650
– – – – (TK.6.2.4.2.) Mary Wyndham baptised 16/9/1651
– – – – (TK.6.2.4.3.) Arabella Wyndham baptised 27/7/1664 = Amias Bamfield
– – – – – (TK.6.2.4.3.1.) Mary Bamfield
– – – – – (TK.6.2.4.3.2.) Gertrude Bamfield
– – – – (TK.6.2.4.4.) Joanne Wyndham baptised 27/7/1664
– – – – (TK.6.2.4.5.) Elizabeth Wyndham baptised 29/8/1656
– – – – (TK.6.2.4.6.) Sarah Wyndham baptised 5/9/1656
– – – – (TK.6.2.4.7.) Frances Wyndham baptised 9/10/1658
– – (TK.6.3.) Ursula Strode = Sir John Chichester of Hall, Kent – Chichester of Hall pedigree shows only male issue
– – (TK.6.4.) Frances Strode = Sir Samuel Somaster of Painsford, Devon, son and heir of Henry Somaster, at All Hallows Goldsmith Street, Exeter
– – – (TK.6.4.1.) Mary Somaster, married 20 August 1633 at Ashprington = Dr Joseph Martin, LLD, Chancellor of Exeter and Judge of the Court of the Admiralty in Devon
– – – (TK.6.4.2.) Frances Somaster, Buried 18 Jan 1616-17 at Ashprington
– – – (TK.6.4.3.) Sarah Somaster, baptized 10 March 1617-18 at Ashprington, aged 2 in 1620
– – – (TK.6.4.4.) Elizabeth Somaster, baptized 16, buried 24 february 1619-20 at Ashprington
– – – (TK.6.4.5.) Grace Somaster baptized 8 August 1621 at Ashprington
– – (TK.6.5.) Julian Strode = Sir John Davey
– – – (TK.6.5.1.) Mary Davey, baptized 25 March 1611-12, married 1 January 1634-5 at Sandford to John Willoughbie
– – – (TK.6.5.2.) Elizabeth Davey, baptized 24 September 1618, married 9 April 1642 at Sandford = Arthur Copleston of Bowden
– – – – (TK.6.5.2.1.) Mary Coplestone (baptized c. 1648)
– – – – (TK.6.5.2.2.) Julian Coplestone, died 1681
– – – (TK.6.5.3.) Julyan Davey Baptized 1 January 1622-3, married 5 July 1648 at Sandford = Thomas Beare
– – – – (TK.6.5.3.1.) Juliana Beare/Bere b 1654. Juliana = George Musgrove 1670
– – – – – (TK.6.5.3.1.1.). Juliana Musgrave = James Keigwin b1672 d1710
– – – – – – (TK. 6.5.3.1.1.1.) Juliana Keigwin b1696-d1741 = Thomas Clutterbuck Male issue only
– – – – – (TK.6.5.3.1.2.) Margaret Musgrove b1699 = Christopher Davies Only male issue
– – – – – (TK.6.5.3.1.3.) Sarah Musgrove b1700 d 1734 ? died unmarried
– – – – – (TK.6.5.3.1.4.) Mary Musgrove b 1701 = William John
– – – – – (TK.6.5.3.1.5.) Rachel Musgrove b1704 = Thomas Roberts
– – – – – (TK.6.5.3.1.7.) Dorothy Musgrove b1702 = John Borlase
– – – – (TK. 6.5.3.2.) Mary Beare/Bere b 01/02/1661
– – – (TK.6.5.4.) Margaret Davey Baptized 20 May 1627, married 25 February 1649-50 at Sandford = Richard Beavis
– – (TK.6.6.) Margaret Strode = Sir John Yonge of Stetacombe, living with issue in 1644
– – – (TK.6.6.1.) Jane Yonge = Sir John Drake of Ashe
– – – – (TK.6.6.1.1.) Elizabeth Drake, baptized 5 January, 1648-9, married Sir John Briscoe of Boughton, Northants, died at Boughton 9, buried 17, november 1694 at Musbury, aged 46, (without issue?)
– – – (TK.6.6.2.) Mary Yonge, baptized 4 March, 1625-6, buried 8 may 1641 at Colyton
– – – (TK.6.6.3.) Elizabeth Yonge, married 1656 at Colytan = Thomas Hudges of Shipton Moigne, Gloucestershire, living in 1663)
– – – (TK.6.6.4.) Sarah Yonge, buried 11 June 1641 at Colyton
– – (TK.6.7.) Elizabeth Strode = Edmond Specott of Anderdon (Specott pedigree shows only male issue)

 

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 9) – An Exciting New Contribution from a Reader

Just a few days ago, via our good friend Kathryn Warner, a superb genealogist dealing with the medieval period got in touch with us to share his research on the matrilineal line descending from Eleanor of Castile, carrying the same mitochondrial DNA as King Edward II. His name is Kevin McKenzie, and as well as being a sollicitor, he says “I have been a pretty obsessive genealogist since my early teens!”

Kevin wrote to us with his own original research into the matrilineal line, which, like the research previously provided by Kathryn Warner, brings us to the late 17th century, possibly even the early 18th century, following another line. This is a huge leap forward, and we are extremely grateful to Kevin for sharing this information with us. Family tree researchers out there – please, if any of the women Kevin lists below are in your family trees, get in touch with us! You may carry the mitochondrial DNA of King Edward II!

Kevin writes:

“I was surprised to see from the Auramala Project website (see The Search for Edward II’s Descendants #5) that two of the individuals given with a matrilinear descent from Eleanor (in fact through Joan of Acre), where they are looking for possible living matrilinear descendants, are Philippa Bonville and her sister Margaret Bonville who married Sir William Courtenay of Powderham Castle.

I have information for you regarding Margaret Bonville’s matrilineal line descendants at least as far as the late c17th and I do know that the lady which the matrilinear section of my tree ends with – my ancestress Mary Drake – had a very large number of children.

I also think I can clear up the question of Margaret Bonville’s maternity and whether this was Eleanor’s matrilineal descendant Margaret Grey or instead one “Margaret Merriet”.  Helpfully it seems that Margaret Merriet is a confusion with Sir William Bonville’s grandfather’s wife, Margaret daughter of Sir William d’Aumale, cousin and heir of Sir John Meriet, junior (see extracts from Rootsweb posts as marked in yellow below) – and so the Auramala Project will I am sure be very interested in this – as I can give them an answer to their request for information on this which is a positive one from the matrilineal lines research point of view!

The tree goes as follows and, as you will see, this section of it is entirely matrilinear:

1  Margaret Grey (not Margaret Merriet) = Sir William Bonville, KG (1393 – 1461)

2  Margaret Bonville = Sir William Courtenay of Powderham Castle  (Margaret’s sister Philippa married Sir William Grenville and was thereby the ancestress of Sir Richard Grenville of the Revenge)

3  Joan de Courtenay = William Carew of Mohun Ottery

4  Cecily Carew (sister of Admiral George Carew of the Mary Rose) = Thomas Kirkham

5  Thomasine Kirkham = Thomas Southcote

6  Mary Southcote = Sir William Strode of Newnham Park (d 1637) (a direct descendant of Gregory, son of Thomas Cromwell, and his wife Elizabeth Seymour, sister of Queen Jane)

7  Joan Strode (sister of William Strode MP, one of the famous Five Members) = Sir Francis Drake, 1st Baronet (nephew of Admiral Sir Francis Drake)

8  Mary Drake = Elizeus (or Ellis/Elisha) Crymes of Buckland Monachorum, Devon, MP, Colonel of the Parliamentary  garrison of Plymouth during the Civil War (their son Lewis (or Ludovic) is an ancestor of mine, but not in the seamless matrilinear line).”

Thank you once again Kevin for this extremely valuable information!

Ivan Fowler.

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 7) – Kathryn Warner’s genealogical research

After Kathryn Warner’s visit to Pavia in late September, she became passionate about the genealogical side of the Auramala Project, and we are very, very happy about that. Kathryn turns out to have a real talent for genealogy, and with her extremely in-depth knowledge of the 14th century royal family and it’s many, many branches, she has an edge over most other researchers. In fact, Kathryn has done what we feared was not going to be possible – she has breached the obscurity barrier from the 1500s to the 1700s, for at least one line of matrilineal descent from Eleanor of Castile. In the space of literally a few days, Kathryn managed to trace 17 generations, and since the last generation includes no less than four women, all carrying Edward II’s (well, really Eleanor of Castile’s) mitochondrial DNA. What a breakthrough! This latest generation must surely bring the research into the 1700s. Please, any reader who finds any of the women listed below in their genealogy should get in touch with us, you may be the carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA!

Here is the text Kathryn sent to us in full:

17 Generations of Female Descent from Edward II’s Mother Eleanor of Castile – by Kathryn Warner

Generation 1) Eleanor of Castile, queen of England, countess of Ponthieu (c. late 1241 – 28 Nov 1290)

m. Edward I, king of England (17 June 1239 – 7 July 1307)

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Generation 2) Joan of Acre (spring 1272 – 23 April 1307) [Note: Second surviving daughter of Edward I and Eleanor of Castile, born in the Holy Land]

m. (1) Gilbert ‘the Red’ de Clare, earl of Gloucester and Hertford (2 Sept 1243 – 7 Dec 1295)

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Generation 3) Elizabeth de Clare (16 Sept 1295 – 4 Nov 1360) [Note: Fourth child and third daughter, born just a few weeks before her father died; married three times and a very wealthy widow for almost forty years; co-heiress of her brother the earl of Gloucester with her older sisters Eleanor de Clare Despenser and Margaret de Clare Gaveston Audley; founded Clare College, Cambridge; often known by her first married name, Elizabeth de Burgh]

m. (2) Theobald de Verdon or Verdun, justiciar of Ireland (8 Sept 1278 – 27 July 1316) [Note: he abducted her from Bristol Castle in early February 1316 and forcibly married her]

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Generation 4) Isabella de Verdon (21 March 1317 – 25 July 1349) [Note: Born at Amesbury Priory, Wiltshire, eight months after her father’s death, and named after her godmother, Edward II’s queen Isabella of France; Edward II sent a silver cup as a christening gift for his great-niece; younger half-sister via her mother of William Donn de Burgh, earl of Ulster, whose daughter and heir Elizabeth married Edward III’s second son Lionel of Antwerp; co-heiress of her father with her three older de Verdon half-sisters]

m. Henry, Lord Ferrers of Groby, Leicestershire (1290s/early 1300s – 15 Sept 1343)

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Generation 5) Elizabeth Ferrers (c. mid to late 1330s – 22 Oct 1375)

m. David de Strathbogie, titular earl of Atholl (c. early 1330s – 10 Oct 1369) [Note: Son of Katherine Beaumont, whose sister Isabella married Henry of Grosmont, first duke of Lancaster; David was thus a first cousin of Blanche of Lancaster, who married Edward III’s third son John of Gaunt and was the mother of Henry IV]

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Generation 6) Elizabeth de Strathbogie, also called Elizabeth of Atholl (1361 – 1416)

m. (2) Sir John le Scrope (will dated 23 Dec 1405)

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Generation 7) Elizabeth le Scrope (c. 1395 – 1430)

m. Sir Thomas Clarell of Aldwark (1394 – 1430)

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Generation 8) Elizabeth Clarell (c. 1415 – 1503)

m. Sir Richard Fitzwilliam of Aldwark (will proved 5 Sept 1488)

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Generation 9) Margaret Fitzwilliam (? – ?; her brother was born in 1448) [Note: had two sisters Isabel and Katherine; possibly more female lines to be investigated here]

m. Ralph Reresby (d. 1530)

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Generation 10) Elizabeth Reresby (? – ?)

m. Edward Eyre of Holm Hall (d. 1557)

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Generation 11) Lucy Eyre (d. before 1556) [Note: had sister Anne Eyre]

m. Humphrey Stafford of Eyam (the famous plague village in Derbyshire)

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Generation 12) Gertrude Stafford (d. either before 1600 or in 1624) [Note: Gertrude had sisters Alice, Ann and Catherine Stafford; possibly more female lines here; another line from Catherine is below]

m. Rowland Eyre of Hassop (d. 1626)

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Generation 13) Jane Eyre (seriously!!!) (d. after 1611) [Note: had sister Frances Eyre]

m. Christopher Pegge

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Generation 14) Jane Eyre and Christopher Pegge had daughters Prudence Pegge, b. 1598, and Anne Pegge.

Another line, the same as above to Generation 11, Lucy Eyre

Generation 11) Lucy Eyre

m. Humphrey Stafford of Eyam, Derbyshire

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Generation 12) Catherine Stafford (d. 1595), sister of Gertrude Stafford, above

m. Rowland Morewood of The Oaks

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Generation 13) Anne Morewood (b. c. 1578) [Note: had sisters Gertrude, Mary, Alice, Faith and Elizabeth Morewood; possibly more female lines here to check]

m. James Bullock of Greenhill in July 1607

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Generation 14) Elizabeth Bullock (christened 12 April 1608)

m. Godfrey Froggatt of Mayfield (d. 1664)

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Generation 15) Elizabeth Froggatt (1636-1669) [Note: Elizabeth Bullock and Godfrey Froggatt also had daughters Alice, Catherine, Barbara (1639-1675), Anne, Mary and Priscilla Froggatt, Elizabeth’s sisters. With any luck should be some lines of descent to trace here]

m. Thomas Burley of Greenhill

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Generation 16) Sarah Burley

m. Charles Johnstone of Pontefract

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Generation 17) Jane, Elizabeth, Sarah and Barbara Johnstone [Note: I don’t have their dates of birth and death or any more info, but this must take us into the 1700s ]

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 6) – Lady Elizabeth Plantagenet

With this post I’m going right back up the tree to Elizabeth Plantagenet (7 August 1282 – 5 May 1316). She was the youngest daughter of Edward I and Eleanor of Castile, and two years older than her brother, Edward II. For a short careful and detailed biography by Kathryn Warner, click here. For the Auramala project, what we want to know is not the details of Elizabeth’s day to day life, but simply who her daughters were, and dates of when she lived. However, even that creates a story! Firstly, thanks to her royal status, we actually can date both her birth and death, unlike most women of her age. We have that rare gift to medieval historians, a source! A fragment of the roll of daily expenses in Queen Eleanor’s household shows that she was churched on Sunday, 6 September 1282 (P.R.O. E 101/684/62 m.1). Since we know queens were usually confined for thirty days following the birth of a daughter, Elizabeth’s birth may be dated c. 7 August 1282. 1 We also know the location of her birth, Rhuddlan Castle, in Wales, as the Chronicle of Bury St. Edmunds states: “1282. Alienora regina Anglie apud Rothelan filiam peperit quam uocauit Elizabeth.”2 (Eleanor, queen of England, gave birth to a daughter at Rhuddlan, whom she named Elizabeth.) Moving on to her children. Elizabeth first married in 1297 (aged fourteen) the twelve year old Jan I, Count of Holland. It was a short lived marriage, and they did not spend much time together, Elizabeth choosing (of her own will, yes, that’s right, important medieval women could make some decisions!) to remain in England rather than go to Holland with her husband. She did go there for a few months in 1299, but Jan, now fifteen years old, died there on 10th November 1299. No children were born of the marriage, and a combination of distance, youth, and Jan’s ill health make it unlikely that it was ever consummated. No Dutch relations of Edward II to be traced from this line then, but fortunately, Elizabeth’s story doesn’t end here. Our seventeen year old widowed princess returned to England, and she would have known that she would be marrying again, probably fairly soon. Women of high status families, particularly when at a fertile age, were incredibly useful and powerful in politics, cementing alliances. This time she married an Englishman, Humphry de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford, 3rd of Essex, and Constable of England, at Westminister Abbey on 14 November 1302. The fruits of this marriage are a goldmine for us. Eleven children in thirteen years! Including four daughters, who we will be looking into in future posts. Sadly, this state of almost constant pregnancy and childbirth must have taken its toll on Elizabeth’s health. On 5 May 1316 she went into labour, giving birth to another daughter, Isabella. Both Elizabeth and her daughter Isabella died shortly after the birth, and were buried together in Waltham Abbey. A sad end to the story, but don’t worry, there’ll be another one. Enrica Biasi (The following information is courtesy of Craig L. Foster. Mr Foster is a research consultant at FamilySearch’s Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (www.familysearch.org). FamilySearch collects digitized records and other information to assist people around the world searching after their ancestors. FamilySearch does not normally perform research on DNA and to search for living descendants.) Generation 2

  1. Elizabeth Plantagenet

Lady Elizabeth Plantagenet was born in August 1282 at Rhuddlan Castle, Rhuddlan, Denbighshire, Wales.2 She was the daughter of Edward I ‘Longshanks’, King of England and Eleanor de Castilla, Comtesse de Ponthieu. She married, firstly, Jean I Graaf van Hollant en Zeeland, son of Florent V Graaf van Hollant and Beatrix de Flandre, on 18 January 1297 at Ipswich Priory Church, Ipswich, Suffolk, England.2 She married, secondly, Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford, son of Humphrey de Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford and Maud de Fiennes, on 14 November 1302 at Westminster Abbey, Westminster, London, England.1 She died on 5 May 1316 at age 33 at Quendon, Essex, England, childbirth.3 She was buried at Walden Abbey, Essex, England.3 From 14 November 1302, her married name became de Bohun. Children of Lady Elizabeth Plantagenet and Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford

  1. Edmund de Bohun1
  2. Margaret de Bohun+1 d. 16 Dec 1391
  3. Hugh de Bohun1 b. c 1303, d. 1305
  4. Eleanor de Bohun+1 b. 1304, d. 1363
  5. Mary de Bohun1 b. 1305, d. 1305
  6. John de Bohun, 5th Earl of Hereford1 b. 23 Nov 1306, d. 20 Jan 1336
  7. Humphrey de Bohun, 6th Earl of Hereford1 b. 1309, d. 1361
  8. William de Bohun, 1st Earl of Northampton+ b. c 1311, d. 16 Sep 1360
  9. Edward de Bohun1 b. c 1311, d. 1334
  10. Eneas de Bohun1 b. c 1314, d. b 1343 – Died without issue.
  11. Isabella de Bohun3 b. 1316, d. 1316

Citations

  1. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 84. Hereinafter cited as Britain’s Royal Families.
  2. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families, page 83.

[S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families, page 85. 1 John Carmi Parsons, “The Year of Eleanor of Castile’s Birth and Her Children by Edward I,” Mediaeval Studies, 46, 1984. 2 The Chronicle of Bury St Edmunds, 1212-1301, Antonia Gransden (ed.), Nelson Medieval Texts (London: 1964).

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 5) In which there are far too many Margarets…

For those of you eagerly awaiting further information about Craig L. Foster’s geneological research, here’s the next installment of the search!

In my last post, we looked at Elizabeth de Ros and her daughter Matilda. Now, we’re going to focus on Elizabeth’s sister Margaret, and her family. These were women connected to influential men and events, and it is a shame that there is so little documentation of their lives, both because this would be interesting in itself, and because the lack of it leaves this branch of our search in quite a muddled state.

Margaret de Ros was the first wife of Reynold Grey, 3rd Lord Grey (of Ruthin). He was a powerful Welsh marcher lord, whose dispute with Owain Glyndŵr over some common land sparked the Glyndŵr Rebellion. In 1415, he was a member of the council which governed England whilst Henry V was fighting in France, and he later served in France himself. Grey, via his second marriage, was the grandfather of John Grey of Groby, the first husband of English Queen Elizabeth Woodville. (For an outline of this interesting lady’s life, start with Jane Johnson Lewis’s summary here).

Margaret and her husband had two known children: one son, Sir John Grey (c.1387-1439), who was at Agincourt, and became a Knight of the Order of the Garter in 1436. and a daughter, also Margaret.

Our second Margaret, (Margaret Grey) was born in Ruthin Castle, Wales. She married Sir William Bonville, 1st Lord Bonville, in a contract dated 12th December 1414. Margaret and Bonville lived in the Manor of Chewton Mendip, in Somerset. This was a rural area involved with hunting, mining, and agriculture, which you can read more about on the Chewton Mendip History Website. Bonville was also the lord of the manors of Sponton and Hutton Bonville in Yorkshire. Margaret number two died around May 1426, and Bonville remarried in 1427. He went on to become Senechal of Aquitaine and Governor of Exeter Castle, but like so many of his contemporaries, (including his son and grandson) came to a sticky end during the Wars of the Roses, and was beheaded on 18th February 1461, by Queen Margaret of Anjou and the Lancastrians after the Second Battle of St. Albans.

Margaret Grey had at least two children. One was a son, also William Bonville – this was not a family known for innovation in naming! Through her son, Margaret is the great grandmother of the wealthy and influential heiress Cecily Bonville, and an ancestor of Lady Jane Grey. The second known child was a daughter, Elizabeth Bonville. Unfortunately for us, Elizabeth, who married Sir William Tailboys, seems to have only had one son. However, since after Margaret’s death her husband remarried and had more children, there is some uncertainty as to whether Margeret had other daughters. There is a Phillipa Bonville with ambiguous parentage, and yet another Margaret (Bonville), who married Sir William Courtenay of Powderham Castle. This third Margaret is sometimes listed as daughter of Sir William Bonville and a potential fourth Margaret (Merriet/Merriot), but elsewhere described as the daughter of Margaret Grey. Margaret Grey and Margaret Merriet may indeed be the same person, they have similar approximated death dates, and the sources I have access to are contradictory. More verifiable information about the identities of Phillipa Bonville, Margaret Bonville, and Margaret Merriet would mean a great deal to us, as it could help us continue the hunt for a living descendant. Genealogy fans out there, please lend us a hand!

Enrica Biasi

(The following information is courtesy of Craig L. Foster. Mr Foster is a research consultant at FamilySearch’s Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (www.familysearch.org). FamilySearch collects digitized records and other information to assist people around the world searching after their ancestors. FamilySearch does not normally perform research on DNA and to search for living descendants.)

Generation 6

  1. Margaret de Ros

Margaret de Ros is the daughter of Thomas de Ros, 4th Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Beatrice de Stafford.2,3 She married Reynold Grey, 3rd Lord Grey (of Ruthin), son of Reynold de Grey, 2nd Lord Grey (of Ruthin) and Alianore Lestrange, after 25 November 1378.4  From after 25 November 1378, her married name became Grey.4

Children of Margaret de Ros and Reynold Grey, 3rd Lord Grey (of Ruthin)

  1. Margaret Grey+2 d. a May 1426
  2. Sir John Grey+5 b. c 1387, d. 27 Aug 1439

Citations

  1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke’s Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke’s Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 1817. Hereinafter cited as Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  2. [S1545] Mitchell Adams, “re: West Ancestors,” e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 6 December 2005 – 19 June 2009. Hereinafter cited as “re: West Ancestors.”
  3. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  4. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VI, page 157. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume VI, page 159.

Generation 7

  1. Margaret Grey

Margaret Grey was the daughter of Reynold Grey, 3rd Lord Grey (of Ruthin) and Margaret de Ros.1,2 She married Sir William Bonville, 1st Lord Bonville, son of John Bonville and Elizabeth FitzRoger, before June 1414.3,1 She died after May 1426.3  From before June 1414, her married name became Bonville.3

Children of Margaret Grey and Sir William Bonville, 1st Lord Bonville

  1. William Bonville+4 d. 31 Dec 1460
  2. Elizabeth Bonville+5 d. 14 Feb 1490/91 – Mar. Sir William Tailboys and had one son.

Citations

  1. [S2] Peter W. Hammond, editor, The Complete Peerage or a History of the House of Lords and All its Members From the Earliest Times, Volume XIV: Addenda & Corrigenda (Stroud, Gloucestershire, U.K.: Sutton Publishing, 1998), page 98. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage, Volume XIV.
  2. [S1545] Mitchell Adams, “re: West Ancestors,” e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 6 December 2005 – 19 June 2009. Hereinafter cited as “re: West Ancestors.”
  3. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 218. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  4. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume II, page 219.

[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume VII, page 361.

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 4) Joan of Acre’s lineage continues

Today, we’ll continue with Craig L. Foster’s geneological research. Craig, research consultant at the Family History Library, a division of FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, is tracing the direct female line of descent from Edward II’s mother, Eleanor of Castille, towards the present day, in the hopes of discovering a living carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA.

Last time, after our options following the de Clare lineage through generations 4 and 5 decreased, we were left with hopes that the de Ros daughters, (great-great granddaughters of Edward II’s sister Joan of Acre), had more daughters than sons. Remember, mitochondrial DNA is only transmitted by mothers to their children, so whilst both men and women bear it, we can only follow its passage through the female line.

The first daughter, Elizabeth, married Thomas de Clifford in 1373. Thomas was only aged around 10 at this time, and although we do not have a date of birth for Elizabeth, there cannot have been a notable age difference, given that she lived until 1424. Their marriage seems to have been a happy one; Elizabeth apparently referred to him after his death as “my most dear lord and husband”.1 Thomas was one of King Richard II’s chamber knights, attending court frequently, and succeeded to his father’s barony in 1390. He traveled far, present at jousting tournaments in Calais, according to Froissart2 and at a crusade in North Africa, according to another French chronicler.3 Nicolson and Burn claim that he died accompanying Thomas, duke of Gloucester, on his journey to “Spruce in Germany against the infidels, where he was slain 4 Oct. 1493”.4 Since the de Clifford’s owned extensive lands, Elizabeth, like the wives of many knights at the time, probably was responsible for overseeing them during her husband’s absence. In 1405, the famous French author Christine de Pizan wrote in A Medieval Woman’s Mirror of Honour: The Treasury of the City of Ladies: “these women spend most of their lives in households without husbands…so the ladies will have responsibilities for managing their property, their revenues, and their lands…she must manage it so well that by conferring with her husband, her gentle words and good counsel will lead to their agreement to follow a plan for the estate.”5 Women were seen as able to govern land on a practical basis, but only in their subservient role as wife.

Elizabeth and Thomas’s son John served Henry V at the Siege of Harfleur and the Battle of Agincourt, being made a Knight of the Order of the Garter in 1421. He was slain at the Siege of Meaux in 1422.6 John’s grandson Henry de Clifford inspired William Wordsworth’s poem, Song at the Feast of Brougham Castle upon the Restoration of Lord Clifford, the Shepherd, to the Estates and Honours of his Ancestors. Elizabeth, as a daughter, wife, and mother of two influential knights, would have been part of the small elite sector of fourteenth and fifteenth century society.

However, it is Elizabeth’s daughter Matilda, also known as Maud, who interests us most here. Sadly, she seems to have been unlucky in terms of husband choice. Her first marriage to John de Neville, 6th Baron Latimer, ended in divorce (or more properly, annulment), before 1414 due to “causa frigidatis ejusdem”, or impotence.7 Her second marriage, to Richard of Conisburgh, 3rd Earl of Cambridge, ended in 1415 when he was beheaded for his participation in the Southampton Plot. After that, Matilda apparently lived in “great state” at Conisburgh Castle and elsewhere until her death in 1446.8 Perhaps this was a relief for her: a life of luxury and independence without the men in her life causing trouble! Unfortunately for us, it means that we need to turn elsewhere if we are to find a living carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA. Matilda seems to have died without issue, although some genealogy sites suggest that she may have had a daughter by Richard called Alice Plantagenet, who married Thomas Musgrave. However we have not yet been able to find any verifiable source for this – please get in touch if you can help!

So now we’re left with only one more branch of this line, Elizabeth’s sister Margaret de Ros. Let’s hope we have more luck there!

(The following information is courtesy of Craig L. Foster. Mr Foster is a research consultant at FamilySearch’s Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (www.familysearch.org). FamilySearch collects digitized records and other information to assist people around the world searching after their ancestors. FamilySearch does not normally perform research on DNA and to search for living descendants.)

Generation 6

80. Elizabeth de Ros

Elizabeth de Ros was the daughter of Thomas de Ros, 4th Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Beatrice de Stafford.1,2 She married Thomas de Clifford, 6th Lord Clifford, son of Roger de Clifford, 5th Lord Clifford and Maud de Beauchamp.2 She died in March 1424.2  Her married name became de Clifford.2

Children of Elizabeth de Ros and Thomas de Clifford, 6th Lord Clifford

  1. Matilda de Clifford1 d. 26 Aug 1446 – Died without issue.
  2. Sir John de Clifford, 7th Lord Clifford+3 b. c 1388, d. 13 Mar 1421/22

 

Enrica Biasi

Citations

  1. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 112. Hereinafter cited as Britain’s Royal Families.
  2. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume III, page 292. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  3. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 293.

1 Cumbria AS, WD/Hoth/Books of record, 2.329

2 J. Froissart, Chronicles of England, France, Spain, and the adjoining countries, trans. T. Johnes, 2 (1839), 436

3 H. Summerson, ‘Clifford, Thomas, sixth Baron Clifford (1362/3–1391)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, Jan 2008 [http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/5662, accessed 17 Sept 2014]

4 Whitaker, History of Westmoreland, i. 281, 31

5 E. Amt, Women’s Lives in Medieval Europe, (1993) p. 164

6 G. Cokayne, (1913). The Complete Peerage, edited by H.A. Doubleday III. London: St. Catherine Press. p. 293.

7C. Mosley, editor. Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes. Crans, Switzerland: Burke’s Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999. p. 14

8 G. Cokayne, (1932). The Complete Peerage, edited by H. A. Doubleday VIII. London: St. Catherine Press. p.495

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 3) The de Clare lineage ends…

In today’s post we continue with the genealogical research of Craig L. Foster, research consultant at the Family History Library, a division of FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. Craig is following the direct female line of descendancy down from Edward II’s mother, Eleanor of Castille, toward the present, in the hopes of discovering a living carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA.

The last time we dipped into his research, we were following the de Clare lineage, descended from Edward II’s sister Joan of Acre, which produced many female descendants in Generation 3. Unfortunately, there’s bad news. Here we outline generations 4 and 5 following the same lineage, but you can see that with each generation the field narrows considerably, as female descendents most often did not have daughters. Fortunately, we see here in generation five a promising group of de Ros family daughters. Let’s keep our fingers crossed, and see how it turns out.

(The following information is courtesy of Craig L. Foster. Mr Foster is a research consultant at FamilySearch’s Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (www.familysearch.org). FamilySearch collects digitized records and other information to assist people around the world searching after their ancestors. FamilySearch does not normally perform research on DNA and to search for living descendants.)

 

Generation 4

45. Eleanor le Despenser

Eleanor le Despenser, daughter of Lady Eleanor de Clare and Hugh le Despenser, 1st Lord le Despenser, married Sir Hugh de Courtenay.

Children of Eleanor le Despenser and Hugh de Courtenay

72. Margaret de Courtenay d. 18 Mar 1349 – Mar. Nicholas de Moels, 2nd Baron Moels and had one son.

48. Margaret Audley, Baroness Audley

MargaretAudley, Baroness Audley was the daughter of HughAudley, 1st and last Earl of Gloucester and MargaretdeClare.1 She married RalphdeStafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, son of EdmunddeStafford, 1st Lord Stafford and MargaretBasset, before 6 July 1336.1 She died between 1347 and 1351.1 She was buried at Tonbridge, Kent, England.2
She succeeded to the title of
2nd Baroness Audley [E., 1317] on 10 November 1347, suo jure.1

Children of Margaret Audley, Baroness Audley and RalphdeStafford, 1st Earl of Stafford

73. CatherinedeStafford+ d. a 6 Dec 1361 – Mar. Sir John de Sutton and had one son.

74. BeatricedeStafford+2 d. 14 Apr 1415

75. LadyElizabethdeStafford3 b. c 1334, d. 7 Aug 1376 – Died without issue.

76. JoandeStafford+4 b. 1336, d. b 1397 – Mar. John Cherleton, 3rd Lord Cherleton and had two sons.

77. SirRalphStafford b. b 1344, d. b 1347

78. HughdeStafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford+1 b. c 1344, d. 13 Oct 1386

Citations

  1. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 346. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  2. [S1545] Mitchell Adams, “re: West Ancestors,” e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 6 December 2005 – 19 June 2009. Hereinafter cited as “re: West Ancestors.”
  3. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 353.
  4. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 161.

Generation 5

74. BeatricedeStafford

BeatricedeStafford was the daughter of RalphdeStafford, 1st Earl of Stafford and MargaretAudley, Baroness Audley.2,1 She married, firstly, MauricefitzMaurice, 2nd Earl of Desmond, son of MauricefitzThomas, 1st Earl of Desmond.3 She married, secondly, ThomasdeRos, 4th Lord de Ros of Helmsley, son of WilliamdeRos, 2nd Lord de Ros of Helmsley and MargerydeBadlesmere, circa 1 January 1359.3 She married, thirdly, SirRichardBurley after 1384.3 She died on 14 April 1415.3
From after 1384, her married name became Burley.
3

Children of Beatrice de Stafford and ThomasdeRos, 4th Lord de Ros of Helmsley

  1. ElizabethdeRos+1 d. Mar 1424
  2. MargaretdeRos+2
  3. ThomasdeRos3
  4. RobertdeRos3
  5. JohndeRos, 5th Lord de Ros of Helmsley3 b. c 1368, d. 6 Aug 1393
  6. WilliamdeRos, 6th Lord de Ros of Helmsley+4 b. c 1369, d. 1 Sep 1414

Citations

  1. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume III, page 292. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  2. [S1545] Mitchell Adams, “re: West Ancestors,” e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 6 December 2005 – 19 June 2009. Hereinafter cited as “re: West Ancestors.”
  3. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke’s Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke’s Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1107. Hereinafter cited as Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  4. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XI, page 102.

 

 

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 2) Joan of Acre’s descendants

Having published some significant progress in the historical and archival research, we decided it was time to continue with the genealogical research currently being carried out at the same time by Craig L. Foster, research consultant at the Family History Library, a division of FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah. As mentioned in previous posts, Craig has been following the direct female line of descendants down from Edward II’s mother, Eleanor of Castille, toward the present, in the hopes of discovering a living carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA.

The Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah

The last time we took a look at his research, we had looked at the generation of Eleanor of Castille’s daughters1, and had singled out one possible fruitful line of research in the person of Joan of Acre. As Craig reports:

Joan of Acre was born circa April 1272 at Acre, Israel.2 She was the daughter of Edward I ‘Longshanks’, King of England and Eleanor de Castilla, Comtesse de Ponthieu. She married, firstly, Gilbert de Clare, 6th Earl of Gloucester, son of Richard de Clare, 5th Earl of Gloucester and Matilda de Lacy, on 30 April 1290 at Westminster Abbey, Westminster, London, England.2 She married, secondly, Ralph de Monthermer, Earl of Gloucester before 2 August 1297, without her father’s consent, although this was pardoned on 2 August 1297. She died on 23 April 1307 at Clare, Suffolk, England.3 She was buried at Priory Church of the Austin Friars, Clare, Suffolk, England.3
She was also known as Joan Plantagenet.4
From 30 April 1290, her married name became de Clare. From 1297, her married name became Monthermer.

So let’s continue down the line, where Joan of Acre’s children are a part of the vast de Clare lineage. Remember, the key aspect is that mitochondrial DNA follows the path from mothers to their children, but is NOT passed on to the next generation by men, only by women. So both men and women bear it, but only women transmit it.

(The following information is courtesy of Craig L. Foster. Mr Foster is a research consultant at FamilySearch’s Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (www.familysearch.org). FamilySearch collects digitized records and other information to assist people around the world searching after their ancestors. FamilySearch does not normally perform research on DNA and to search for living descendants.)

Generation 3

25. Eleanor de Clare

Lady Eleanor de Clare was born in October 1292.2 She was the daughter of Gilbert de Clare, 6th Earl of Gloucester and Joan of Acre.1,2 She married, firstly, Hugh le Despenser, 1st Lord le Despenser, son of Hugh le Despenser, 1st and last Earl of Winchester and Isabella de Beauchamp, in 1306.3 She married, secondly, William la Zouche, 1st Lord Zouche of Mortimer, son of Robert de Mortimer and Joyce la Zouche, circa January 1328/29.4 She died on 30 June 1337 at age 44.5,3

Children of Lady Eleanor de Clare and Hugh le Despenser, 1st Lord le Despenser

  1. 43.   Elizabeth le Despencer+6 d. 13 Jul 1389 – Mar. Maurice de Berkeley, 4th Lord Berkeley and had only sons.
  2. 44.   Sir Edward le Despenser+3 d. 30 Sep 1342
  3. 45.   Eleanor le Despenser+
  4. 46.   Hugh le Despenser, 1st Lord le Despenser3 b. c 1308, d. 8 Feb 1348/49
  5. 47.   Isabel le Despenser+1 b. c 1313, d. 1375 – Mar. Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel and had one son.

Citations

  1. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 243. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  2. [S106] Royal Genealogies Website (ROYAL92.GED), online ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/genealogy/public_html/royal/index.html. Hereinafter cited as Royal Genealogies Website.
  3. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke’s Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke’s Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1385. Hereinafter cited as Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  4. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 3, page 4289.
  5. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 83. Hereinafter cited as Britain’s Royal Families.
  6. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume II, page 130.

26. Margaret de Clare

Margaret de Clare was born in 1293.2 She was the daughter of Gilbert de Clare, 6th Earl of Gloucester and Joan of Acre.1 She married, firstly, Piers Gaveston, 1st Earl of Cornwall circa 1307.3 She married, secondly, Hugh Audley, 1st and last Earl of Gloucester, son of Hugh Audley, 1st Lord Audley (of Stratton Audley) and Isolt de Mortimer, on 28 April 1317 at Windsor, Berkshire, England.3 She died in April 1342.2,3
From circa 1307, her married name became Gaveston. As a result of her marriage, Margaret de Clare was styled as Lady Audley on 28 April 1317. From 28 April 1317, her married name became Audley. As a result of her marriage, Margaret de Clare was styled as Countess of Gloucester on 16 March 1337.

Child of Margaret de Clare and Hugh Audley, 1st and last Earl of Gloucester

  1. 48.   Margaret Audley, Baroness Audley+3 d. bt 1347 – 1351

Citations

  1. [S106] Royal Genealogies Website (ROYAL92.GED), online ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/genealogy/public_html/royal/index.html. Hereinafter cited as Royal Genealogies Website.
  2. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 83. Hereinafter cited as Britain’s Royal Families.
  3. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 346. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

27. Elizabeth de Clare

Elizabeth de Clare was born on 16 September 1295.3 She was the daughter of Gilbert de Clare, 6th Earl of Gloucester and Joan of Acre.4,1 She married, firstly, John de Burgh, son of Richard de Burgh, 2nd Earl of Ulster and Margaret (?), on 30 September 1308 at Waltham Abbey, Essex, England.1 She married, secondly, Sir Theobald de Verdun, 2nd Lord Verdun, son of Theobald Verdun, 1st Lord Verdun and Margery de Bohun, on 4 February 1315/16.5 She married, thirdly, Roger d’Amorie, Lord d’Amorie in 1317. She died on 4 November 1360 at age 65.1 Her will was probated on 3 December 1360.4
She succeeded to the title of 11th Lady of Clare [feudal baron] on 24 June 1314.4 Her last will was dated 25 September 1355.

Child of Elizabeth de Clare and John de Burgh

  1. 49.   William de Burgh, 3rd Earl of Ulster+6 b. 17 Sep 1312, d. 6 Jun 1333

Child of Elizabeth de Clare and Roger d’Amorie, Lord d’Amorie

  1. 50.   Elizabeth d’Amorie+7 b. b 23 May 1318, d. 5 Feb 1360/61 – Mar. Sir John Bardolf, 3rd Lord Bardolf and had one son.

Citations

  1. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume XII/2, page 177. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  2. [S3409] Caroline Maubois, “re: Penancoet Family,” e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 2 December 2008. Hereinafter cited as “re: Penancoet Family.”
  3. [S106] Royal Genealogies Website (ROYAL92.GED), online ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/genealogy/public_html/royal/index.html. Hereinafter cited as Royal Genealogies Website.
  4. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 245.
  5. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 251.
  6. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 178.
  7. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 419.

28. Mary de Monthermer

Mary de Monthermer was born in 1298.2 She was the daughter of Ralph de Monthermer, Earl of Gloucester and Joan of Acre.3,1 She married Duncan MacDuff, 8th Earl of Fife, son of Duncan MacDuff, 7th Earl of Fife, after 1306.2 She died after 1371.2

Children of Mary de Monthermer and Duncan MacDuff, 8th Earl of Fife

  1. 51.Isabel MacDuff d. a 12 Aug 1389 – Died without issue.
  2. 52. Elizabeth MacDuff, Countess of Fife1 b. b 1332, d. a 12 Aug 1389 – Died without issue.

Citations

  1. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 215. Hereinafter cited as Britain’s Royal Families.
  2. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families, page 83.
  3. [S106] Royal Genealogies Website (ROYAL92.GED), online ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/genealogy/public_html/royal/index.html. Hereinafter cited as Royal Genealogies Website.

We can see that Joan of Acre had four daughters, in the third generation counting from Eleanor of Castille. Let’s investigate what happened to them and their own daughters in the Joan of Acre/de Clare lineage in the fourth generation. As we progress, readers will notice that we don’t mention every single person mentioned as a child in the previous generation. This occurs where that individual female descendant had no daughters, bringing that particular line of research to a close. For example, No. 43, Elizabeth le Despencer, daughter of No. 25, Eleanor de Clare. She married, but had only sons, and as a consequence did not pass on the mitochondrial DNA molecule we are looking for, and so she takes her bow with this generation. In the next blog post she, and others like her in this respect, will not appear. In the next post we’ll go into the fourth generation with results concerning her sisters and first cousins.

To summarise the work so far, we’ve followed the Joan of Acre/de Clare line down a couple of generations, and we can see that Eleanor of Castille’s female line is still looking healthy here. The family-tree mapping is an ongoing process, and we still have not found our living descendant(s), so please, genealogy enthusiasts, do keep checking on this blog and write to us as soon as you see a name appear in these genealogy blog posts that you know for certain appears in your own family tree. We really need people around the world to get involved and help us track descendants. A big thank you in advance to anybody who can help with this.

Note: Craig L. Foster has made extensive use of the resources of the Family History Library, and thepeerage.com