The Search For Edward II’s Descendents 8) – A Long Distant Relative!

Earlier this year, Kylie Walker got in touch with us via Twitter, as she has traced her direct line to Edward I and Eleanor of Castile! This was very exciting for us, as although she doesn’t follow the female line the whole way, meaning that she doesn’t carry Eleanor’s mitochondrial DNA, the information may point us to further lines of enquiry.

Walker tweet

Kylie’s family tree leads to Eleanor of Castile through Elisabeth Plantagenet, who we wrote about here.

As researcher Ivan Fowler explained to Kylie, we have so far been using the top down (past to present) approach. But as we have been work down the line, we have found there are many daughters of Eleanor’s great granddaughters for whom we don’t have good information through heraldic records, simply because as the family branched out, the younger members of the family, particularly daughters, became less aristocratic. As their “blue blood” was diluted, they became more likely to marry men of wealth rather than nobility, becoming, sadly for us, no longer of interest to heraldry. Due to this, there’s a gulf that begins around the year 1450/1500 and ends around 1800 when public records start becoming reliable even for ordinary folk, but of course by then we have completely lost track of people. It doesn’t help that surnames tend to track the male line, not the female one!

A promising way to bridge this gulf would be to use the bottom up (present to past) approach, but we need people to participate. The top down approach has the advantage of an obvious starting point – Eleanor of Castile – but the bottom up approach could literally begin anywhere! We can’t just start randomly doing people’s genealogy hoping a link to Eleanor will turn up, it would take an eternity. That’s why we need people who have already traced their own genealogy back to that era, and who already know they are connected to Eleanor, even though it may not be along the direct female line, to participate and help out. It will guide our research. So far, Kylie is the first to get in touch with us, but we are hoping others will do likewise, helping us greatly.

After discussing what information we would require, Kylie told us “I’m more than happy for you to publish my line. I’m a novice so there could well be errors so if you are happy to take it warts and all I’m more than happy to contribute…If you find errors I won’t be offended if you let me know. Good luck, I hope this helps or at least brings a little bit of hope to your project.”

Thanks very much to Kylie, and if any readers out there have a family tree that links to Eleanor of Castile, or one that could help trace some of our “missing” daughters, please do get in touch!

Enrica Biasi.

Kylie Lynne Barnard + Brendon Michael Walker

Marilyn Gaye Anderson + Peter Ross Barnard

– – Henry Keith Eldridge Anderson + Marjorie Hannah Thatcher (Henry was adopted by maternal grandparents)

– – – Henry Spencer Eldridge + Chrisabel Anderson

– – – – James Eldridge + Alice E Thomas

– – – – – James Eldridge + Philadelphia Burgess

– – – – – – James Eldridge + Ruth Taylor

– – – – – – – William Eldridge + Sarah Potter

– – – – – – – – James Eldridge + Elizabeth Jones

– – – – – – – – – Mary Weaver Hales + James Eldridge

– – – – – – – – – – John Weaver Hales + Jone Hales

– – – – – – – – – – – Edward 2nd Baron of Woodchurch Hales + Anne Wotton

– – – – – – – – – – – – John Hales + Christian Cromer

– – – – – – – – – – – – – Martha Carew+ Edward Hales

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – Sir Matthew Carew + Alice Rivers

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Sir Wymond, Knight of Antony Cornwall, Carew + Martha, Lady of Howe, Norfolk, Denny

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Sir John of Antony, Sherriff of Cornwall, Carew + Thomasine De Holland

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Alexander Carew + Elizabeth Isabel Hatch

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Joanne Jane Courtenay + Nicholas Baron of Mohun Ottery Carew

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Sir Hugh Courtenay + Philippa Archdekne

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Edward Courtenay + Emeline Dawnay

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Margaret De Bohun+ Hugh De Courtenay

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Elizabeth Plantagenet + Humphrey De Bohun

– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Edward I Longshanks de Plantagenet, King of England + Eleanor Castile

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2 thoughts on “The Search For Edward II’s Descendents 8) – A Long Distant Relative!

  1. I’m also a descendant of Eleanor of Castile, but through the male line down to John of Gaunt and then mixed male/female to the present day. I would be happy to send you the names/dates if that would be helpful. I do think there are many, many thousands of folks out there who have their descent mapped out like this, it’s just a matter of getting them to see your site and you’d be flooded with info!

  2. Hello Barb F, thanks for writing in. We would be very happy to see your line back to Eleanor as well, we are starting to find some very interesting and hopeful connections. Please send it in, if you want to. The address is ilmondoditels@gmail.com Cheers!

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