Castagne, latte, vin brulé e musica

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Una domenica all’eremo per festeggiare sant’Antonio, le nostre usanze, i nostri animali

Domenica 21 Gennaio 2018, ore 14:00, all‘Eremo di Sant’Alberto di Butrio

Una tradizione che attraverso i secoli giunge viva fino a noi: domenica 21 gennaio dalle 14:00, per festeggiare Sant’Antonio, all’Eremo di Sant’Alberto di Butrio (Pavia) si celebra il protettore degli animali domestici con la tipica zuppa di castagne e latte di vacca varzese, preparata dalla chef Piera Selvatico e accompagnato da vin brulé preparato da Caterina Brazzola dell’Azienda Agricola Montelio In sotofondo musica tradizionale con pifferi e fisarmoniche.

L’evento è gratuito e non serve la prenotazione. In caso di maltempo, l’evento non sarà annullato.

Per l’occasione sono previste visite guidate speciali agli affreschi dell’eremo e alla misteriosa tomba di Edoardo II, musica e la presenza di produttori enogastronomici del territorio. Gli amici a quattro zampe sono i benvenuti.

Alle 16.30 s. messa con il coro parrocchiale di Retorbido e benedizione.

L’evento è promosso da The Auramala Project. Come forse già sapete, il nostro ambizioso progetto, opera dell’Associazione Culturale ‘Il Mondo di Tels’ di Pavia, punta a scoprire discendenti viventi del re Edoardo II d’Inghilterra, vissuto tra il Dodicesimo e il Tredicesimo secolo. Secondo alcuni documenti storici, e secondo alcune tradizioni orali della Valle Staffora, questo re fuggì dall’Inghilterra per diventare un eremita in Oltrepò Pavese, forse proprio all’eremo di Sant’Alberto. La nostra speranza è di scoprire, mediante ricerca genealogica, discendenti viventi del re per poter usare la genetica per dimostrare la teoria della fuga in Oltrepò. Ancora non abbiamo trovato tale discendente, ma siamo instancabili nella nostra ricerca!

La Storia Genetica dell’Italia

Come forse ricorderete, lo scorso 22 gennaio all’eremo di Sant’Alberto di Butrio è stata organizzata una raccolta DNA, effettuata da ricercatori dell’Università di Pavia. Tale raccolta rientrava nel progetto di ricerca “Storia genetica dell’Italia”, coordinato da Dott.ssa Anna Olivieri del dipartimento di Biologia e Biotecnologie “Lazzaro Spallanzani”. L’analisi dei campioni è ora stata completata, e donatori interessati a conoscerne i risultati li potranno ritirare domenica a Sant’Alberto. Inoltre, Ivan Fowler di The Auramala Project sarà presente per rispondere a qualsiasi domanda.

L’analisi riguarda il DNA mitocondriale dei donatori, che viene ereditato esclusivamente per via materna, cioè ciascuno di noi (maschio o femmina) lo eredita identico dalla propria madre ma solo le femmine lo trasmettono alla generazione successiva.

Sulla base delle mutazioni (cioè delle differenze) di questo DNA, ciascuno di noi viene classificato in un gruppo (chiamato aplogruppo) che racconta qualcosa della storia antica della nostra molecola. Infatti esistono aplogruppi specifici delle diverse popolazioni del mondo. Attraverso l’analisi delle molecole di DNA mitocondriale degli italiani di oggi, come lei, il progetto di ricerca “Storia genetica dell’Italia” vuole mappare le molteplici origini antiche del nostro popolo. Nella scheda allegata troverà maggiori informazioni su aplogroppi, DNA mitocondriale e sul suo specifico aplogruppo. Le vostre donazioni sono davvero preziose, e ringraziamo di cuore.

Si ringraziano: Don Agostino e i monaci dell’eremo di Sant’Alberto di Butrio, Piera Selvatico e Albergo Ristorante Selvatico, Caterina e Giovanna Brazzola e l’Azienda Agricola Montelio, Elena Corbellini, Coro Parrocchiale di Retorbido, Azienda Agricola Oranami, Azienda Agricola Lino Verardo, Azienda Agricola Fabio Birilli, Azienda Agricola Valle Nizza di Aldo Agosti, Comuni di Ponte Nizza e Val di Nizza,  Associazione Spino Fiorito, Associazione Varzi Viva, Osservatorio astronomico Ca’ del Monte, Associazione Culturale Il Mondo di TELS

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The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 7) – Kathryn Warner’s genealogical research

After Kathryn Warner’s visit to Pavia in late September, she became passionate about the genealogical side of the Auramala Project, and we are very, very happy about that. Kathryn turns out to have a real talent for genealogy, and with her extremely in-depth knowledge of the 14th century royal family and it’s many, many branches, she has an edge over most other researchers. In fact, Kathryn has done what we feared was not going to be possible – she has breached the obscurity barrier from the 1500s to the 1700s, for at least one line of matrilineal descent from Eleanor of Castile. In the space of literally a few days, Kathryn managed to trace 17 generations, and since the last generation includes no less than four women, all carrying Edward II’s (well, really Eleanor of Castile’s) mitochondrial DNA. What a breakthrough! This latest generation must surely bring the research into the 1700s. Please, any reader who finds any of the women listed below in their genealogy should get in touch with us, you may be the carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA!

Here is the text Kathryn sent to us in full:

17 Generations of Female Descent from Edward II’s Mother Eleanor of Castile – by Kathryn Warner

Generation 1) Eleanor of Castile, queen of England, countess of Ponthieu (c. late 1241 – 28 Nov 1290)

m. Edward I, king of England (17 June 1239 – 7 July 1307)

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Generation 2) Joan of Acre (spring 1272 – 23 April 1307) [Note: Second surviving daughter of Edward I and Eleanor of Castile, born in the Holy Land]

m. (1) Gilbert ‘the Red’ de Clare, earl of Gloucester and Hertford (2 Sept 1243 – 7 Dec 1295)

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Generation 3) Elizabeth de Clare (16 Sept 1295 – 4 Nov 1360) [Note: Fourth child and third daughter, born just a few weeks before her father died; married three times and a very wealthy widow for almost forty years; co-heiress of her brother the earl of Gloucester with her older sisters Eleanor de Clare Despenser and Margaret de Clare Gaveston Audley; founded Clare College, Cambridge; often known by her first married name, Elizabeth de Burgh]

m. (2) Theobald de Verdon or Verdun, justiciar of Ireland (8 Sept 1278 – 27 July 1316) [Note: he abducted her from Bristol Castle in early February 1316 and forcibly married her]

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Generation 4) Isabella de Verdon (21 March 1317 – 25 July 1349) [Note: Born at Amesbury Priory, Wiltshire, eight months after her father’s death, and named after her godmother, Edward II’s queen Isabella of France; Edward II sent a silver cup as a christening gift for his great-niece; younger half-sister via her mother of William Donn de Burgh, earl of Ulster, whose daughter and heir Elizabeth married Edward III’s second son Lionel of Antwerp; co-heiress of her father with her three older de Verdon half-sisters]

m. Henry, Lord Ferrers of Groby, Leicestershire (1290s/early 1300s – 15 Sept 1343)

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Generation 5) Elizabeth Ferrers (c. mid to late 1330s – 22 Oct 1375)

m. David de Strathbogie, titular earl of Atholl (c. early 1330s – 10 Oct 1369) [Note: Son of Katherine Beaumont, whose sister Isabella married Henry of Grosmont, first duke of Lancaster; David was thus a first cousin of Blanche of Lancaster, who married Edward III’s third son John of Gaunt and was the mother of Henry IV]

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Generation 6) Elizabeth de Strathbogie, also called Elizabeth of Atholl (1361 – 1416)

m. (2) Sir John le Scrope (will dated 23 Dec 1405)

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Generation 7) Elizabeth le Scrope (c. 1395 – 1430)

m. Sir Thomas Clarell of Aldwark (1394 – 1430)

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Generation 8) Elizabeth Clarell (c. 1415 – 1503)

m. Sir Richard Fitzwilliam of Aldwark (will proved 5 Sept 1488)

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Generation 9) Margaret Fitzwilliam (? – ?; her brother was born in 1448) [Note: had two sisters Isabel and Katherine; possibly more female lines to be investigated here]

m. Ralph Reresby (d. 1530)

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Generation 10) Elizabeth Reresby (? – ?)

m. Edward Eyre of Holm Hall (d. 1557)

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Generation 11) Lucy Eyre (d. before 1556) [Note: had sister Anne Eyre]

m. Humphrey Stafford of Eyam (the famous plague village in Derbyshire)

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Generation 12) Gertrude Stafford (d. either before 1600 or in 1624) [Note: Gertrude had sisters Alice, Ann and Catherine Stafford; possibly more female lines here; another line from Catherine is below]

m. Rowland Eyre of Hassop (d. 1626)

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Generation 13) Jane Eyre (seriously!!!) (d. after 1611) [Note: had sister Frances Eyre]

m. Christopher Pegge

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Generation 14) Jane Eyre and Christopher Pegge had daughters Prudence Pegge, b. 1598, and Anne Pegge.

Another line, the same as above to Generation 11, Lucy Eyre

Generation 11) Lucy Eyre

m. Humphrey Stafford of Eyam, Derbyshire

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Generation 12) Catherine Stafford (d. 1595), sister of Gertrude Stafford, above

m. Rowland Morewood of The Oaks

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Generation 13) Anne Morewood (b. c. 1578) [Note: had sisters Gertrude, Mary, Alice, Faith and Elizabeth Morewood; possibly more female lines here to check]

m. James Bullock of Greenhill in July 1607

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Generation 14) Elizabeth Bullock (christened 12 April 1608)

m. Godfrey Froggatt of Mayfield (d. 1664)

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Generation 15) Elizabeth Froggatt (1636-1669) [Note: Elizabeth Bullock and Godfrey Froggatt also had daughters Alice, Catherine, Barbara (1639-1675), Anne, Mary and Priscilla Froggatt, Elizabeth’s sisters. With any luck should be some lines of descent to trace here]

m. Thomas Burley of Greenhill

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Generation 16) Sarah Burley

m. Charles Johnstone of Pontefract

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Generation 17) Jane, Elizabeth, Sarah and Barbara Johnstone [Note: I don’t have their dates of birth and death or any more info, but this must take us into the 1700s ]

The Search for Edward II’s Descendants 4) Joan of Acre’s lineage continues

Today, we’ll continue with Craig L. Foster’s geneological research. Craig, research consultant at the Family History Library, a division of FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, is tracing the direct female line of descent from Edward II’s mother, Eleanor of Castille, towards the present day, in the hopes of discovering a living carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA.

Last time, after our options following the de Clare lineage through generations 4 and 5 decreased, we were left with hopes that the de Ros daughters, (great-great granddaughters of Edward II’s sister Joan of Acre), had more daughters than sons. Remember, mitochondrial DNA is only transmitted by mothers to their children, so whilst both men and women bear it, we can only follow its passage through the female line.

The first daughter, Elizabeth, married Thomas de Clifford in 1373. Thomas was only aged around 10 at this time, and although we do not have a date of birth for Elizabeth, there cannot have been a notable age difference, given that she lived until 1424. Their marriage seems to have been a happy one; Elizabeth apparently referred to him after his death as “my most dear lord and husband”.1 Thomas was one of King Richard II’s chamber knights, attending court frequently, and succeeded to his father’s barony in 1390. He traveled far, present at jousting tournaments in Calais, according to Froissart2 and at a crusade in North Africa, according to another French chronicler.3 Nicolson and Burn claim that he died accompanying Thomas, duke of Gloucester, on his journey to “Spruce in Germany against the infidels, where he was slain 4 Oct. 1493”.4 Since the de Clifford’s owned extensive lands, Elizabeth, like the wives of many knights at the time, probably was responsible for overseeing them during her husband’s absence. In 1405, the famous French author Christine de Pizan wrote in A Medieval Woman’s Mirror of Honour: The Treasury of the City of Ladies: “these women spend most of their lives in households without husbands…so the ladies will have responsibilities for managing their property, their revenues, and their lands…she must manage it so well that by conferring with her husband, her gentle words and good counsel will lead to their agreement to follow a plan for the estate.”5 Women were seen as able to govern land on a practical basis, but only in their subservient role as wife.

Elizabeth and Thomas’s son John served Henry V at the Siege of Harfleur and the Battle of Agincourt, being made a Knight of the Order of the Garter in 1421. He was slain at the Siege of Meaux in 1422.6 John’s grandson Henry de Clifford inspired William Wordsworth’s poem, Song at the Feast of Brougham Castle upon the Restoration of Lord Clifford, the Shepherd, to the Estates and Honours of his Ancestors. Elizabeth, as a daughter, wife, and mother of two influential knights, would have been part of the small elite sector of fourteenth and fifteenth century society.

However, it is Elizabeth’s daughter Matilda, also known as Maud, who interests us most here. Sadly, she seems to have been unlucky in terms of husband choice. Her first marriage to John de Neville, 6th Baron Latimer, ended in divorce (or more properly, annulment), before 1414 due to “causa frigidatis ejusdem”, or impotence.7 Her second marriage, to Richard of Conisburgh, 3rd Earl of Cambridge, ended in 1415 when he was beheaded for his participation in the Southampton Plot. After that, Matilda apparently lived in “great state” at Conisburgh Castle and elsewhere until her death in 1446.8 Perhaps this was a relief for her: a life of luxury and independence without the men in her life causing trouble! Unfortunately for us, it means that we need to turn elsewhere if we are to find a living carrier of Edward II’s mitochondrial DNA. Matilda seems to have died without issue, although some genealogy sites suggest that she may have had a daughter by Richard called Alice Plantagenet, who married Thomas Musgrave. However we have not yet been able to find any verifiable source for this – please get in touch if you can help!

So now we’re left with only one more branch of this line, Elizabeth’s sister Margaret de Ros. Let’s hope we have more luck there!

(The following information is courtesy of Craig L. Foster. Mr Foster is a research consultant at FamilySearch’s Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (www.familysearch.org). FamilySearch collects digitized records and other information to assist people around the world searching after their ancestors. FamilySearch does not normally perform research on DNA and to search for living descendants.)

Generation 6

80. Elizabeth de Ros

Elizabeth de Ros was the daughter of Thomas de Ros, 4th Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Beatrice de Stafford.1,2 She married Thomas de Clifford, 6th Lord Clifford, son of Roger de Clifford, 5th Lord Clifford and Maud de Beauchamp.2 She died in March 1424.2  Her married name became de Clifford.2

Children of Elizabeth de Ros and Thomas de Clifford, 6th Lord Clifford

  1. Matilda de Clifford1 d. 26 Aug 1446 – Died without issue.
  2. Sir John de Clifford, 7th Lord Clifford+3 b. c 1388, d. 13 Mar 1421/22

 

Enrica Biasi

Citations

  1. [S11] Alison Weir, Britain’s Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 112. Hereinafter cited as Britain’s Royal Families.
  2. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume III, page 292. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  3. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 293.

1 Cumbria AS, WD/Hoth/Books of record, 2.329

2 J. Froissart, Chronicles of England, France, Spain, and the adjoining countries, trans. T. Johnes, 2 (1839), 436

3 H. Summerson, ‘Clifford, Thomas, sixth Baron Clifford (1362/3–1391)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, Jan 2008 [http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/5662, accessed 17 Sept 2014]

4 Whitaker, History of Westmoreland, i. 281, 31

5 E. Amt, Women’s Lives in Medieval Europe, (1993) p. 164

6 G. Cokayne, (1913). The Complete Peerage, edited by H.A. Doubleday III. London: St. Catherine Press. p. 293.

7C. Mosley, editor. Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes. Crans, Switzerland: Burke’s Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999. p. 14

8 G. Cokayne, (1932). The Complete Peerage, edited by H. A. Doubleday VIII. London: St. Catherine Press. p.495

Interview with Ugo Perego, genetic genealogist, on the forensic side of the Project

The following interview is abridged due to the considerable length of the original. Complete interview is available on request.

Ivan Fowler: Good morning, Doctor Perego. Can you tell us something about yourself, and your work?

Ugo Perego: I have a Ph. D. in human genetics and molecular biology, and I’m specialized in using genetic tools to reconstruct the history of individuals or populations, using DNA. My work is divided mainly into two components. I have a collaboration with a number of universities, where we produce genetic research and publications in the field of population genetics. The University of Pavia is where I have my affiliation for this type of work. I’m also the CEO of a company called The Genetic Genealogy Consultant, and together with other researchers in that group we provide consulting for individuals that want to use DNA to extend or verify their genealogical research.

IF: Thank you. Now, in the case of Edward II and our research project to try and identify his remains, it may seem logical to simply open the tomb of one of his female relatives that the family tree says has the same mitochondrial DNA as him, and take mitochondrial DNA from the remains in that tomb, and then simply compare the two. But you recommend that we do not do that.

UP: Yes. It is a possibility, but if you don’t know that the person the tomb attributed to King Edward is King Edward, and you also cannot know for sure if the female relative is what you’re going to find in that grave, and so you have two unknown variables. So what if the King is actually the King, and you get a genetic profile, and then you get the female relative, and you think that genealogically she is related, but it’s not the right person in there, so then the genetic profile from the female relative is the incorrect one, how are you going to verify that the King is the King, or is not the King? So who is right and who is wrong in that moment? You have two variables that you assume, based on the genealogies, are correct, but you will not know, in the case of miss­match, who is the right one, in the right place. Of course, if they are a match, and there is the genealogy, then you have a strong case. The problem, though, also comes with requesting permission, to obtain the DNA from these bones. So you have to really provide a strong case both for Edward, and then another strong case for the relative, which most likely could be a famous royal individual; or not, but the process of acquiring permission from city officials, churches, if they are in churches, lawyers, family members who might be alive and have a right to the tomb and prevent you… all of that can require a long, long time, to go through the process a lot of bureaucracy, a lot of costs to do that… So it’s much easier at this point to identify living descendants, and have more than one of those, first.

IF: Why do you say more than one living descendant?

UP: More than one descendant is because… well, we’re using mitochondrial DNA, which is a small genetic molecule, found in organelles called mitochondria within the cell, so it’s not nuclear DNA where the 23 pairs of chromosomes are found, so it’s a small component. Just to give you an idea, you have about three billion pieces of DNA in the nucleus, and then you have about seventeen thousand in the mitochondria, so it’s very manageable as a size, but it has a characteristic which is that it does not mix with the rest of the DNA, so it follows a straight maternal line from a mother to her children, and then all the daughters will pass it on. So the concept that we are dealing here with is the concept of the most recent common ancestor. So, although the female line, the ‘umbilical’ line, is usually more… what’s the word… you don’t have reason to suspect that the mother is not the mother, you know, while you might not be as sure about who the father is, but you still have some unknowns, that perhaps somewhere, especially if you’re considering a case of about eight centuries, there could have been a case of adoption that was not documented. Let’s say, you know, in 1400 there was an adoption, or an illegitimacy, like a daughter who becomes pregnant and you don’t want anybody to know, because she’s not married, and so somebody takes the kid in, so you’re raising a kid with your own name, but biologically is not connected to you. In the last hundred or two hundred years, you might have documents to support that, but as you go back in time, every time somebody is born you add to the possibility that the biology does not match the genealogy. So, two or more descendants going back to this common ancestor that you’re trying to trace, would disprove, or eliminate any NPEs, which are Non Paternity Events, with an adoption or illegitimacy, or so on, that might create a problem with you thinking ‘Hey, this is the right genealogy, I should have the right guy. I have the DNA, it doesn’t match Edward’s, therefore Edward is not in the grave’, right? But what if there was an error in the genealogy, and Edward is in the grave, and you have the wrong DNA in your hands, and then somebody else later on does a similar study to replicate your findings, but does it with more than one descendant, and says ‘No, you did it wrong.’ So that is the reason why it is always better to have at least two, and then you go from there.

IF: Preferably more?

UP: Yes.

IF: One last question. Could you please tell us about your personal experience in contacting descendants and inviting them to take part in studies?

UP: Yes, well, I have several, but one of the largest projects I participated in was a case in which I was trying to link two families, with a very humble surname: the surname is Smith, which is 1 percent of the UK population, or rather, of England, because Smith is an English surname, not a British surname, that is one of those surnames which goes back to a trade, to lock­smiths, black­smiths, gold­smiths… these were all ‘smiths’, so there are any different Smiths which are not related to each other. So my project was to try to identify a connection between a Smith family in the United States with a possible Smith family, that I didn’t know, in England. And so there was a possible connection to a town in England, so once I found that town, I looked at the White Pages online and identified how many Smiths lived in that town: there were 1300. Then I wrote a letter to all 1300 of them, prepared a kit, and this kit had an explanation of the project, who I was, who I was working for, what I was trying to do, there were swabs to collect the DNA, there were return envelopes with the address and the stamp already paid for. So all they had to do was simply respond, and agree, and think that it could be important. The number of people who replied was less than 40, out of 1300. You know, there’s the older generation that might think ‘Who is this guy? Why does he want my DNA in America? I’m not going to do this.’ In your case, since you have a book that talks about this project and reconstructing Edward’s ancestry and posterity, you could use that book as a kind of calling card, that would definitely make a much louder, stronger statement about who you are. And also, in this case, you really have to create personal contact with these people. Ideally, what people do in these cases is actually go to the door of the person, to knock on the door and say ‘this is what we’re doing’. A phone call might work. But if you send a letter, people will go through the first three lines and then throw it away. If there is a book, people tend not to throw it away!

IF: If you ever have to collect samples from an English village again, just let me know. I’ll go to the village pub and take care of it from there. I volunteer.

UP: Alright.

IF: Thank you very much, Ugo.

UP: You’re welcome.